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"其实O说基础机芯是3303也不能算错。8 o0 D3 k; w) L9 R5 c; x
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虽然舆论一般说33xx的基础机芯是FP，但这两种机芯的差距还是蛮大的，大小都差很多。4 q# D9 ]% R* Y* m/ d
准确点说33xx是借鉴了FP的设计，所以O说33xx是独立的机芯系列。"


一是一,二是二,说基础芯是3303就是错的.


什么是基础芯? 它的定义是用来打造最后成品机芯的原始模型机芯. 比如说1120的基础芯是ETA的2892-A2,用同样ETA2892-A2基础芯打造出来的成品机芯五花八门,很多品牌都有,难道能说1120是基础芯吗?

FP1285是FP为同属于斯沃奇集团的OMEGA专门量身定做的一款基础芯. 由此基础芯经过不同的打磨和改造之后,产生了三种不同的成品机芯: 普通打磨的3301, 高级打磨的3303和3205(无日期), 高级打磨并改造成同轴的3313/3603(GMT).

虽然说是专门为OMEGA量身定做的机芯,但是它并不是从零做起的完全新款的一种基础芯,很明显地它有FP1185的影子,以至于产生了33XX的基础芯到底是FP1285还是FP1185的争论. 在众多专家的讨论和论证下,比较统一的意见是FP1285. 详细的理由见下面的转帖:


difference between the 1185 and 33xx
By:georges zaslavsky
Date: 2/18/06 13:44 GMT
In Response To: However, the c.33xx IS NOT based on the FP c.1185? (Chicagoland Chuck Maddox)
Hi Chuck There are big differences between the 1185 and 33xx movements. It is jean michel who told me as well as other members that the movement of the 33xx is a special movement made by Frederic Piguet known as the 1285 edition speciale de luxe. You can see that on jean michel's website speedmaster-mission.net chapter history. I was also told that by Marco Richon as well as Fabrice Bonjoux (Omega Director of Marketing of France) so I am sure of my sources.
There are difference between a 1185 and a 33xx:


-1185 has a savonnete movement form and the 33xx a lepine one
-1185 has 37 jewels and 33xxx 33 jewels
-33xx has a keyless balance the 1185 hasn't
-33xx has a bidirectional winding system the 1185 hasn't
-diameter and height of both movements are different

I have seen some watch magazines saying that the 33xx is a piguet 1185 but they got it all wrong because they didn't have access to the correct information.
The rolex 4130 despite not being in production since 1969 was judged by many watchmakers as to be the most robust in terms of construction as well as far more easier to service than any el primero.
Always glad, that you add some spice to our watch debates Chuck.
best regards georges




There seems to be a lot of confusion out there on the origins of the Omega c.33xx movements. Many people persist in stating that the Fredric Piguet c.1185 Chronograph movement forms the base movement for the Omega c.33xx. As the following photos will illustrate the truth of the matter is different from these views.


Please note the location of the 12-Hour and the Small Seconds Register's are swapped between the two, in addition to having a different beat (1185: 21,600, 33xx: 28,800) the is size different's between the two movements (@ ø 26.2 mm • 5.4 mm thick the 1185 is much smaller), etc....


To say the 33xx is based on the F. Piguet 1185 is sort of like saying the Apple Macintosh Computer is based on the earlier Apple ][. Inspired, maybe, derative of, perhaps, an exploration of ideas from the earlier, even... Based? I wouldn't use that term.



Of course the date window can be placed anywhere on the dial the manufacturer wishes it to be, so it's not relevent to this discussion.astro13rm Posts: Date Window Question... ...All that needs to be done to move the date window around is change the orientation of the numbers on the date ring right? Just want to make sure I understand this. Almost, there is also the 31 day alignment issue... Since there are 31 days on a date wheel, the manufacturer needs to make certain that the gearing on the wheel lines the date up properly within the date window. If you rotate the date, it may or may not line up properly, because it's not an easily divisable number like 28 (4 x 7, 2 x 14 etc.) in fact it's a prime number. So care has to be taken when moving things around.

Here is a link to the original thread... In any instance the differing beat, size differences as well as the layout of the sub-dials of the watch point out to the fact that the Omega c.33xx movement relationship to the c.1185 is not direct. One can say they are related and be accurate, but to say the c.33xx is based on the c.1185 is a stretch at best. It's also a bit of a stretch to claim that the c.33xx is an in-house movement. True both F. Piguet are owned by Swatch, and true Omega legally owns the assembly line which Piguet uses to make the c.33xx movements. But F. Piguet is an independent company within Swatch, and saying the c.33xx is an in-house movement is a equally a stretch. Call it an Omega Exclusive movement which is correct and everyone's happy!

Chuck



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http://www.iwatch365.com/viewthread.php?tid=15986897&extra=&highlight=&page=2

能说中文吗？鸟语不懂

同意基础机芯的概念。

3313，3303还是除了8500系列外的机芯都不能算是O的自产机芯。

关于到底是1185还是1285还是存在争论了，我偏向于1285。

watchmywatch
丁 是 丁
卯 是 卯

还是非常感谢楼主的精华帖子，这样的技术帖子，方便大家查阅的资料不列入论坛收藏是没有道理的，必须精华，必须置顶。

爱表族最需要的就是这种技术帖子。

財迷啊~~~~~~~~~~~~~我交了

赚了好多钱啊

好帖子花钱买也愿意
呵呵

争议是有的，这里我比较支持Chuck的观点，33xx的改动太多了。

当然说全自主也是Omega自己的观点，我觉得半自主是有了。

不错，很有用知识，帮顶

要钱的啊，不过谢谢先

外国人和牛奶喝结实了，中国人喝牛奶喝结石了

可以看看啊，多多学习，正想要入手O表

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